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	<title>Comments on: My Soapbox: Reacting to Nonprofits? Not a Recessionary Refuge for Job Seekers</title>
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		<title>By: Jobs for 14 And 15 Year Olds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jobs for 14 And 15 Year Olds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great articles here and you really are very talented and deserve an honest compliment. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great articles here and you really are very talented and deserve an honest compliment. Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: faryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>faryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great feedback  - thanks guys!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From reactions here and in conversations on Twitter, I get that Nancy&#039;s feeling understandably frustrated.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I re-read Nancy&#039;s post today and a few things still don&#039;t sit right with me.  Rather than squeeze them in here, I&#039;m going to share them in a follow up post :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great feedback  &#8211; thanks guys!</p>
<p>From reactions here and in conversations on Twitter, I get that Nancy&#39;s feeling understandably frustrated.  </p>
<p>I re-read Nancy&#39;s post today and a few things still don&#39;t sit right with me.  Rather than squeeze them in here, I&#39;m going to share them in a follow up post :-)</p>
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		<title>By: KyNam Doan</title>
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		<dc:creator>KyNam Doan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 04:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see how she&#039;s a little frustrated with this sudden interest in the NP field.  A part of her knows that this talent will flock back to the for-profit world when the economy straightens.  She also has to deal with for-profit individuals who look down their nose at nonprofits.  When I tell people I&#039;d love to do marketing for a nonprofit, they don&#039;t take me seriously.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the other hand.  I&#039;m not quite sure what point she was trying to make besides vent her frustrations--it is a blog after-all. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how she&#39;s a little frustrated with this sudden interest in the NP field.  A part of her knows that this talent will flock back to the for-profit world when the economy straightens.  She also has to deal with for-profit individuals who look down their nose at nonprofits.  When I tell people I&#39;d love to do marketing for a nonprofit, they don&#39;t take me seriously.</p>
<p>On the other hand.  I&#39;m not quite sure what point she was trying to make besides vent her frustrations&#8211;it is a blog after-all. :)</p>
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		<title>By: richandcreamy</title>
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		<dc:creator>richandcreamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She just sounds pretty burned.  It&#039;s depressing to read that she&#039;s at the point where she looks at every candidate with some prejudice but it does sound like she&#039;s had all sorts of people snub her.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well in regards to my tweets, I&#039;ve been used as a stepping stone in people&#039;s careers.   When you&#039;re the person in it for the issues or caring about people and you&#039;re working with people who are all WIIFM and feel that those people are doing more harm than good, you get a little jaded.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I took a break from volunteering but now I&#039;m back in the scene.  I&#039;m not as emotionally invested though, I&#039;m just kinda &quot;hanging out&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She just sounds pretty burned.  It&#39;s depressing to read that she&#39;s at the point where she looks at every candidate with some prejudice but it does sound like she&#39;s had all sorts of people snub her.</p>
<p>Well in regards to my tweets, I&#39;ve been used as a stepping stone in people&#39;s careers.   When you&#39;re the person in it for the issues or caring about people and you&#39;re working with people who are all WIIFM and feel that those people are doing more harm than good, you get a little jaded.</p>
<p>I took a break from volunteering but now I&#39;m back in the scene.  I&#39;m not as emotionally invested though, I&#39;m just kinda &#8220;hanging out&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rosetta Thurman &#187; The Friday Four: Links to End the Week 1.30.09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosetta Thurman &#187; The Friday Four: Links to End the Week 1.30.09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sharing her opinion out of her extensive experience in the sector. (Hat tip to my fellow Twitterer The Fearless Blogger for the link to this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sharing her opinion out of her extensive experience in the sector. (Hat tip to my fellow Twitterer The Fearless Blogger for the link to this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AnneMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnneMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt really similarly to you.  Here is what I posted on her site:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have spent most of my career in startups, but for 2 years I was the IT manager for a not-for-profit social services agency in Chula Vista. They do amazing work there and pay their people well, and their grant writers are aces at getting grant support for modernizing IT equipment. I don&#039;t see any distinction among my work environments: both for-profit and not-for-profit groups drove their teams with clearly-defined mission statements and the kind of visionary leadership that inspired their teams to put in mega hours and tons of dedication with nearly zero budgets and massive creativity. Most of us had Master&#039;s degrees and very specific skills that were developed from our time in the trenches. However, the kind of bitterness you are experiencing here seems extreme. I was really put off by your condescending tone. In reality, good candidates come from all walks of life and pedigrees, as do poor candidates. I would hope you would put general postings on your sites that were helpful, reminding people to pick up a copy of &quot;What Color is My Parachute?&quot; or something to get back to basics, and to approach any potential job with the same zeal they did when they were 22, working feverishly in the career center at college, desperately practicing how to package themselves for the career of their dreams. Basically, with a lot less contempt, you can still get it across that these people who were high-fliers until their recent layoff just need to jettison the ego-identity they indulged at the top, and remind themselves that now that they are out, they are back at ground zero. Anyone who has ever done customer service knows that you have to please the customer, and rattling off their pedigree-laden resume will never do that. Any job hunter needs to remind themselves that the hiring manager is like a customer, always thinking, &quot;What&#039;s In It for Me?&quot; (Remember everyone&#039;s favorite radio station is WIIFM.) You can deflate their outsize egos with kindness and leadership. The bitterness and condescension smacks of someone who has allowed her frustration to escape prematurely and unpackaged. I wish you joy and balance and peace, and a return to your generous spirit. Put some nice suggestions on your facebook and delegate to your assistant the task of responding to repetitive banal or lazy questions, or set up an autoresponder. But don&#039;t let the pressure get you down. Best of luck to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt really similarly to you.  Here is what I posted on her site:</p>
<p>I have spent most of my career in startups, but for 2 years I was the IT manager for a not-for-profit social services agency in Chula Vista. They do amazing work there and pay their people well, and their grant writers are aces at getting grant support for modernizing IT equipment. I don&#39;t see any distinction among my work environments: both for-profit and not-for-profit groups drove their teams with clearly-defined mission statements and the kind of visionary leadership that inspired their teams to put in mega hours and tons of dedication with nearly zero budgets and massive creativity. Most of us had Master&#39;s degrees and very specific skills that were developed from our time in the trenches. However, the kind of bitterness you are experiencing here seems extreme. I was really put off by your condescending tone. In reality, good candidates come from all walks of life and pedigrees, as do poor candidates. I would hope you would put general postings on your sites that were helpful, reminding people to pick up a copy of &#8220;What Color is My Parachute?&#8221; or something to get back to basics, and to approach any potential job with the same zeal they did when they were 22, working feverishly in the career center at college, desperately practicing how to package themselves for the career of their dreams. Basically, with a lot less contempt, you can still get it across that these people who were high-fliers until their recent layoff just need to jettison the ego-identity they indulged at the top, and remind themselves that now that they are out, they are back at ground zero. Anyone who has ever done customer service knows that you have to please the customer, and rattling off their pedigree-laden resume will never do that. Any job hunter needs to remind themselves that the hiring manager is like a customer, always thinking, &#8220;What&#39;s In It for Me?&#8221; (Remember everyone&#39;s favorite radio station is WIIFM.) You can deflate their outsize egos with kindness and leadership. The bitterness and condescension smacks of someone who has allowed her frustration to escape prematurely and unpackaged. I wish you joy and balance and peace, and a return to your generous spirit. Put some nice suggestions on your facebook and delegate to your assistant the task of responding to repetitive banal or lazy questions, or set up an autoresponder. But don&#39;t let the pressure get you down. Best of luck to you!</p>
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